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Author: Ross Whitehead🔥 Date: Category: Likes: 0 URL: https://www.skool.com/coachingacademy/the-pay-to-play-model
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Jamie Birch🔥
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Jamie Birch🔥 • 10dinterested to see the comments here2Reply
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Jamie Birch🔥 • 10dinterested to see the comments here2Reply
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Jamie Birch🔥 • 10dinterested to see the comments here2Reply
Kevin Middleton⭐🔥
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Kevin Middleton⭐🔥 • 10d@Jamie Birch Same!2Reply
Stephen Coxon
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Stephen Coxon • 6d (edited)@Jamie Birch @Kevin MiddletonHi Jamie/Kevin,I just joined this site today!I came over in ’87 to play college soccer here in the States. Originally from Newcastle, I’ve stayed involved in the game at various levels ever since, coached D1 college for nearly 20 years. I currently own and operate a premier club in Connecticut on the East Coast, with over 1,200 kids in the program.If you have any questions about the model, feel free to fire away!CheersSteve2Reply
Ross Whitehead🔥
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Ross Whitehead🔥 • 10d”Grassroots football clubs in Northern Ireland are funded through a combination of sources, including government grants from funds like the UK Government’s Grassroots Facilities Investment Fund and The Northern Ireland Football Fund, as well as support from local councils and private sector sponsorships. Clubs also generate income from matchday revenue, ticket sales, merchandise, and a large degree of community fundraising efforts and volunteer work.”That blurb is an AI generated description of … See more2Reply
Brian Willis
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Brian Willis • 10dMy club has grassroots and competitive teams. Grassroots is $200-300/year and competitive run $2,000-3,000. It varies by region and cost of living. Even where I live there are clubs that charge $5,000/year for their competitive teams. The biggest downside of pay to play is that it can shift the focus from development to results and it can encourage parents to be very opinionated because they want to get what they see as their money’s worth.4Reply
Kevin Middleton⭐🔥
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Kevin Middleton⭐🔥 • 10d@Brian Willis I’ve always wondered about the parent dynamic in pay to play. I’ve written about it in my course but haven’t actually experienced it directly.0Reply
Brian Willis
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Brian Willis • 10dThe lack of a football pyramid in the US is probably the big reason pay to play exists (that’s a whole other topic I can go off on). It’s only in the last 10 years that MLS teams started taking their academies seriously.1Reply
Jamie Birch🔥
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Jamie Birch🔥 • 10d@Brian Willis there’s no promotion or relegation right?0Reply
Ross Whitehead🔥
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Ross Whitehead🔥 • 10d@Brian Willis Is this because of the franchise way that clubs are run, or is it because other clubs don’t have the facilities to support movement up and down leagues?0Reply
Sean Ancheta
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Sean Ancheta • 10dIt cost thousands of dollars per year. Uniform kit NOT included.Teams practice twice a week and travel all over the state/country to play in tournaments over the weekend. Yes you are paying for your child to be developed but what you are really paying for is exposure IMO.When it comes to sports in the US, parents are willing to shell out all kinds of money to make their kid better. Problem is a lot of kids don’t play at home, at school , after school. There might be pockets in the US where there… See more3Reply
Jamie Birch🔥
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Jamie Birch🔥 • 9d@Sean Ancheta this is really interesting. Not sure I’m a huge fan of the only way you can play is by playing. But like you say if kids arnt playing after school etc that’s the only way.0Reply
Brian Willis
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Brian Willis • 9d@Jamie Birch @Sean Ancheta The kids who probably play the most outside of school/organized programs probably come from immigrant communities. They often get overlooked by the USSF system too because they can’t afford to play club soccer. I know a lot of clubs have financial assistance but it’s limited.3Reply
Kevin Middleton⭐🔥
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Kevin Middleton⭐🔥 • 9dNot to hijack Ross’ excellent thread, but I am going to assume that the money filters down to coaches at these prices?2Reply
Sean Ancheta
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Sean Ancheta • 9d@Kevin Middleton I have never coached at a club level but from what I have heard coaches get paid pennies for what they do.2Reply
Kevin Middleton⭐🔥
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Kevin Middleton⭐🔥 • 9d@Sean Ancheta I’ll ask the obvious question…. where is the money going?2Reply
Brian Willis
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Brian Willis • 9dI would have to coach roughly 30 mid-level competitive club teams to be able to quit my day job. My club only has 3 full-time employees - club director, grassroots director, and academy director2Reply
Brian Willis
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Brian Willis • 9dIf I was single and did not have a kid, I could get by coaching 10 or 11 teams.1Reply
Kevin Middleton⭐🔥
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Kevin Middleton⭐🔥 • 8d@Brian Willis that many?!?!1Reply
Kevin Middleton⭐🔥
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Kevin Middleton⭐🔥 • 8dJamie and I were saying that most of our knowledge about Pay to Play comes from this thread so I am changing the cateogry to a 💎Gem3Reply
Kevin Middleton⭐🔥
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Kevin Middleton⭐🔥 • 6dJamie mentioned this during Football Coaching Academy News…. But would any US based coaches be interested in have a round table discussion about the pay to play model and how football operates in the US? Be be via a call chaired by Jamie and myself@Stephen Coxon I know you are new but he great to have you involved3Reply
Brian Willis
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Brian Willis • 6d@Kevin Middleton 🙋2Reply
Kevin Middleton⭐🔥
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Kevin Middleton⭐🔥 • 6d@Brian Willis 🤝🤝🤝3Reply